I know that the bible says that you should flee from ';sexual immorality';, but if the 2 people are not having sex, or tempting each other, why should they not be able to live together? What if they slept in different rooms? And what's the difference between not having sex and spending the night at each others house (days at a time) vs living together?Where in the bible does it specifically say that 2 people should not live together before marriage?
You dont really need to listen to the bible you know you can think for yourself on these issues.Where in the bible does it specifically say that 2 people should not live together before marriage?
It also says not to be a stumbling block for other believers. Just because you are not tempted by living with your boyfriend(i assume you're a girl cause of your avatar) you might be leading him into temptation by living together. While a guy might not want to have sex initially, it can get hard to avoid once things get hot and heavy. Living together with all that privacy is just asking for something to happen.
Living together prior to marriage isnt the problem, its a sexual relationship where the sin enters. What your referring to is a betrothal, and to those who would suggest this is not biblical may I remind you that Mary and Joseph lived in the same dwelling prior to their marriage at the time of the birth of the Savior. Living under the same roof is one thing.... having relations as man and wife in a sexual nature is something totally different.
The answer is that it doesn't. And the reason is that in those days it was an accepted practice. Read ';Jesus the Man'; by Barbara Thiering.
And what the bible actually says about sex is very little and has been 'interpreted' out of existence. Some translations - such as the King James Authorised version - were made by scholastic clergy who couldn't bring themselves to give a true and straight translation and their mealy-mouthed version has been 'interpreted' since!
And the prohibitions that people think were against homosexuality were mostly not about that. Don't trust preachers and priests about what the bible says - and if you read it for yourself try several versions and when the versions are significantly different please doubt what they say.
Lastly remember that god never learned to write. Every word in the bible was written by one man or another and practically all of them had axes to grind!
The Bible does not mention living together. The only problem I see is that your influence might be damaged because people assume that you will have sex.
If you love and care for someone you become more attracted to them. The temptation becomes stronger and eventually most people give in and end up sinning.
I am sure if you talk with other couples that have tried this you will find out that what I said is right.
The Bible does not speak specifically on co-habitation however we have the Church to guide us in these matters. If your concerned about it I would suggest you talk to your spiritual leader about your specific situation. The fact that your asking the question should give you insight to the answer.
I think what religions try to avoid is being promiscuous, like being a run-around, and preferably getting married for life. It's promiscuity that damages the spirit and can make you less focused and even crazy. Nature wants us to have children to keep the human race going, but that shouldn't last a lifetime, like our commercial culture with the Viagra wants us to do. They're just trying to make money and distract us from focusing on Truth.
It doesn't it arose from modesty and purity.
this of course was written by church leaders in the assumption that sex would be inevitable.
Matt 19 Jesus talks about an illicit marriage which was exempt from the law of divorce(this has changed in protestant bibles)
Thats right!
How the hell do you know that you are both compatible enough to live in the same household?
Its not like getting a lodger, is it?
...I havn't seen it written anywhere saying you can't live together. Maybe I missed something. Let's see what others have to say.
But why are you asking that if you havn't gotten it from scripture and included it in the question? Or did you hear it from someone?
Marriage? that's a ticky one!
Wednesday, January 13, 2010
What does the Bible say when you wait until marriage and your partner is awful in bed?
teach them and learn grasshopperWhat does the Bible say when you wait until marriage and your partner is awful in bed?
Yeah thats a rough one. That happened to someone I know. The guy refused to have oral sex with her and that's the only way she could orgasm. The ONLY way. And he wouldnt do it. She had two kids by him and because of that she stuck with the marriage for almost 20 years, the entire time without having an orgasm with her husband. When her kids were grown, she left. In the meantime during that 20 years she gained over 100 pounds from eating in order to cope with the lack of sexual satisfaction. She is still working on losing that. Poor, poor woman.
Yeah, waiting until marriage is really really stupid, especially for women. Women need to know whether the guy is good in bed, and if not, if he is trainable or even willing to try. If not, get rid of him.
EDIT: umm, to those who said that with masturbation there should be no reason for lack of orgasm -- I would imagine that masturbation for twenty years of marriage would get REALLY old.What does the Bible say when you wait until marriage and your partner is awful in bed?
I'll just take a shot in the dark here and say that you two talk about it. Help your partner be better.
I love the answer from Steadfast. That is so true. How sad would it be to live your whole life never enjoying sex.
With masturbation, there is no excuse to live a life without an orgasm.
Just read the whole Bible!
You can get an Audio Bible on your iPhone or iPod Touch. Very good voice and narration + many features.
http://scourby.com/mysby/
http://www.prlog.org/10285985-new-phone-appalexander-scourby-bible-download-many-featuresonly-1999.html
If both parties remain pure until marriage, what criteria would there exist to be judged ';awful';. There would be none, both would grow to enjoy what they mutually learn and experience. Thanks for asking.
I've asked this same question...and as yet have never got a satisfactory reply to it.
Best of luck to you though. I'll keep an eye out...I really would like to know!!
Well someone above mentioned that it takes two to tango..ever think you are paybe not holding up your end of the bragain?
I am I crazy or did I just get lucky? 24 years and still having fun
The bible says get a divorce if you want, christians say, too bad, I say practice makes perfect.
Bible has nothing to do with it...takes two to tango. you probably should buy a manual. you're not turning her on...
How, then would, you know that your partner is awful in bed, relatively?
(You could educate each other, I suppose...)
Have patience. Practice makes perfect.
Nothing. Hard luck for that other partner.
DId you forget about the good ol...
';For better or worse, for rich or poor, in sicknes and in health, til death do us part';
IF both you and your partner are new at it, who says it will be awful. You will both learn together! That is part of the fun!
If married someone just for sex, that's pretty jacked up.
What do you expect ? Virgins need practice. Keep on dipping until you get there.
There MUST be something in Leviticus that says you can take her to the edge of the village and stone her to death.
Teach them. Don't blame them. You have plenty of time.
how would you know what awful was if you waited until marriage?
it doesn't say anything about it.
'Thou shall use Yahoo and look at all the hot Atheist girls'
what does your marriage vow say? for better or worse?
deal with itnatural cleansing
Yeah thats a rough one. That happened to someone I know. The guy refused to have oral sex with her and that's the only way she could orgasm. The ONLY way. And he wouldnt do it. She had two kids by him and because of that she stuck with the marriage for almost 20 years, the entire time without having an orgasm with her husband. When her kids were grown, she left. In the meantime during that 20 years she gained over 100 pounds from eating in order to cope with the lack of sexual satisfaction. She is still working on losing that. Poor, poor woman.
Yeah, waiting until marriage is really really stupid, especially for women. Women need to know whether the guy is good in bed, and if not, if he is trainable or even willing to try. If not, get rid of him.
EDIT: umm, to those who said that with masturbation there should be no reason for lack of orgasm -- I would imagine that masturbation for twenty years of marriage would get REALLY old.What does the Bible say when you wait until marriage and your partner is awful in bed?
I'll just take a shot in the dark here and say that you two talk about it. Help your partner be better.
I love the answer from Steadfast. That is so true. How sad would it be to live your whole life never enjoying sex.
With masturbation, there is no excuse to live a life without an orgasm.
Just read the whole Bible!
You can get an Audio Bible on your iPhone or iPod Touch. Very good voice and narration + many features.
http://scourby.com/mysby/
http://www.prlog.org/10285985-new-phone-appalexander-scourby-bible-download-many-featuresonly-1999.html
If both parties remain pure until marriage, what criteria would there exist to be judged ';awful';. There would be none, both would grow to enjoy what they mutually learn and experience. Thanks for asking.
I've asked this same question...and as yet have never got a satisfactory reply to it.
Best of luck to you though. I'll keep an eye out...I really would like to know!!
Well someone above mentioned that it takes two to tango..ever think you are paybe not holding up your end of the bragain?
I am I crazy or did I just get lucky? 24 years and still having fun
The bible says get a divorce if you want, christians say, too bad, I say practice makes perfect.
Bible has nothing to do with it...takes two to tango. you probably should buy a manual. you're not turning her on...
How, then would, you know that your partner is awful in bed, relatively?
(You could educate each other, I suppose...)
Have patience. Practice makes perfect.
Nothing. Hard luck for that other partner.
DId you forget about the good ol...
';For better or worse, for rich or poor, in sicknes and in health, til death do us part';
IF both you and your partner are new at it, who says it will be awful. You will both learn together! That is part of the fun!
If married someone just for sex, that's pretty jacked up.
What do you expect ? Virgins need practice. Keep on dipping until you get there.
There MUST be something in Leviticus that says you can take her to the edge of the village and stone her to death.
Teach them. Don't blame them. You have plenty of time.
how would you know what awful was if you waited until marriage?
it doesn't say anything about it.
'Thou shall use Yahoo and look at all the hot Atheist girls'
what does your marriage vow say? for better or worse?
deal with it
The Gay marriage issue evolving at fast speeds?
When the beauty pagent runner up answered the question about gay marriage, many people argued that it was no different than Obama's answers a year ago.
But my question is, has so much changed on the gay marriage front, that his answers would be different if they were asked again? At this time we have 5 states going forward with gay marriage. Has the political completely changed in about six months?The Gay marriage issue evolving at fast speeds?
It was and will be stupid whenever an American says it. Just because you all sing that national anthem about being ';free'; so much - it's why every other country both laughs at and hates you.The Gay marriage issue evolving at fast speeds?
Gay marraige...who wants to see 2 homos walking hand in hand down the streets. What is this country coming to? Can you picture a gay president? gosh
But my question is, has so much changed on the gay marriage front, that his answers would be different if they were asked again? At this time we have 5 states going forward with gay marriage. Has the political completely changed in about six months?The Gay marriage issue evolving at fast speeds?
It was and will be stupid whenever an American says it. Just because you all sing that national anthem about being ';free'; so much - it's why every other country both laughs at and hates you.The Gay marriage issue evolving at fast speeds?
Gay marraige...who wants to see 2 homos walking hand in hand down the streets. What is this country coming to? Can you picture a gay president? gosh
Is there anyone that is still alive today that is related to abraham lincoln even by marriage?
Well, my cousin says that he's related to him but i can't remember how. So, i'm trying to see if my cousin is telling the truth. I know i could go online and find something about ancestry but that costs money so i'm just trying to do research so that i don't have to pay for anything but i haven't been able to find anything. Can someone help me?Is there anyone that is still alive today that is related to abraham lincoln even by marriage?
Tom Hanks is a third cousin four times removed to Abraham Lincoln, the 16th president of the United States.
Tom Hanks. He is a direct descendant of Nancy Hanks, Abraham Lincoln's mother
So yes there is still relatives of his alive
Tom Hanks is a third cousin four times removed to Abraham Lincoln, the 16th president of the United States.
Tom Hanks. He is a direct descendant of Nancy Hanks, Abraham Lincoln's mother
So yes there is still relatives of his alive
Do you believe that Miss California lost the Miss USA pageant because of her stand on gay marriage?
No yes or no answers please explain. Easy 10 points for most interesting one.Do you believe that Miss California lost the Miss USA pageant because of her stand on gay marriage?
There are many other threads about this, all you gotta do is search for them.
But no, I honestly don't believe that is what caused her to lose. She was asked her opinion and she gave it, quite respectfully.Do you believe that Miss California lost the Miss USA pageant because of her stand on gay marriage?
No, I am gay but I don't think you could take her crown just because of what she thinks. I may not agree with what she said but no one has the right to get mad at someones opinion. I think Perez Hilton was really immature to leave a message like that. If he didn't agree with her that's Ok but he didn't have to call her a B****.
No I think she lost because that dirtbag Perez Hilton sabotaged her. She scored highest of all the contestants until he gave her a zero for her answer. If a person cannot keep their personal politics out of the mix they have no right to be a judge in ANY contest.
no, it is because one of her implants exploded under the bright, hot lights and hit a judge in the eye and the judge had to go to the hospital.
the video was edited out.
No, I think she lost because she showed that even though it was an old personal view she had a streak of ignorance which cluttered up the image of the MC within.
Probably. Contestants should be loving of ALL sorts of people and their choices, and clearly she wasn't.
No. She lost because she's an illiterate bimbo.
No, she lost it because the Hiton-prick was the judge.
I think so. That was such a negative thing to say! As Miss USA you're supposed to represent America. Personally I wouldn't want someone that negative representing this country. That's just not the ideal attitude of someone who would win the contest. It's a leadership role and in a leadership role many times you have to go against your beliefs in order to represent all people. You have to lead by example. I just can't see someone like that in such a leadership position. It was a huge blunder on her part. If that is her opinion than good for her but she definitely has to work on expressing things more positively especially when in view of the public eye.
(And I'm not just saying that because it was a statement against gay people. I would feel the same way if it were a statement against anybody. Or any other type of negative statement.)
There are many other threads about this, all you gotta do is search for them.
But no, I honestly don't believe that is what caused her to lose. She was asked her opinion and she gave it, quite respectfully.Do you believe that Miss California lost the Miss USA pageant because of her stand on gay marriage?
No, I am gay but I don't think you could take her crown just because of what she thinks. I may not agree with what she said but no one has the right to get mad at someones opinion. I think Perez Hilton was really immature to leave a message like that. If he didn't agree with her that's Ok but he didn't have to call her a B****.
No I think she lost because that dirtbag Perez Hilton sabotaged her. She scored highest of all the contestants until he gave her a zero for her answer. If a person cannot keep their personal politics out of the mix they have no right to be a judge in ANY contest.
no, it is because one of her implants exploded under the bright, hot lights and hit a judge in the eye and the judge had to go to the hospital.
the video was edited out.
No, I think she lost because she showed that even though it was an old personal view she had a streak of ignorance which cluttered up the image of the MC within.
Probably. Contestants should be loving of ALL sorts of people and their choices, and clearly she wasn't.
No. She lost because she's an illiterate bimbo.
No, she lost it because the Hiton-prick was the judge.
I think so. That was such a negative thing to say! As Miss USA you're supposed to represent America. Personally I wouldn't want someone that negative representing this country. That's just not the ideal attitude of someone who would win the contest. It's a leadership role and in a leadership role many times you have to go against your beliefs in order to represent all people. You have to lead by example. I just can't see someone like that in such a leadership position. It was a huge blunder on her part. If that is her opinion than good for her but she definitely has to work on expressing things more positively especially when in view of the public eye.
(And I'm not just saying that because it was a statement against gay people. I would feel the same way if it were a statement against anybody. Or any other type of negative statement.)
Thursday, December 31, 2009
Is there anyone that is still alive today that is related to abraham lincoln even by marriage?
Well, my cousin says that he's related to him but i can't remember how. So, i'm trying to see if my cousin is telling the truth. I know i could go online and find something about ancestry but that costs money so i'm just trying to do research so that i don't have to pay for anything but i haven't been able to find anything. Can someone help me?Is there anyone that is still alive today that is related to abraham lincoln even by marriage?
Tom Hanks is a third cousin four times removed to Abraham Lincoln, the 16th president of the United States.
Tom Hanks. He is a direct descendant of Nancy Hanks, Abraham Lincoln's mother
So yes there is still relatives of his alivenatural cleansing
Tom Hanks is a third cousin four times removed to Abraham Lincoln, the 16th president of the United States.
Tom Hanks. He is a direct descendant of Nancy Hanks, Abraham Lincoln's mother
So yes there is still relatives of his alive
Do you believe that Miss California lost the Miss USA pageant because of her stand on gay marriage?
No yes or no answers please explain. Easy 10 points for most interesting one.Do you believe that Miss California lost the Miss USA pageant because of her stand on gay marriage?
There are many other threads about this, all you gotta do is search for them.
But no, I honestly don't believe that is what caused her to lose. She was asked her opinion and she gave it, quite respectfully.Do you believe that Miss California lost the Miss USA pageant because of her stand on gay marriage?
No, I am gay but I don't think you could take her crown just because of what she thinks. I may not agree with what she said but no one has the right to get mad at someones opinion. I think Perez Hilton was really immature to leave a message like that. If he didn't agree with her that's Ok but he didn't have to call her a B****.
No I think she lost because that dirtbag Perez Hilton sabotaged her. She scored highest of all the contestants until he gave her a zero for her answer. If a person cannot keep their personal politics out of the mix they have no right to be a judge in ANY contest.
no, it is because one of her implants exploded under the bright, hot lights and hit a judge in the eye and the judge had to go to the hospital.
the video was edited out.
No, I think she lost because she showed that even though it was an old personal view she had a streak of ignorance which cluttered up the image of the MC within.
Probably. Contestants should be loving of ALL sorts of people and their choices, and clearly she wasn't.
No. She lost because she's an illiterate bimbo.
No, she lost it because the Hiton-prick was the judge.
I think so. That was such a negative thing to say! As Miss USA you're supposed to represent America. Personally I wouldn't want someone that negative representing this country. That's just not the ideal attitude of someone who would win the contest. It's a leadership role and in a leadership role many times you have to go against your beliefs in order to represent all people. You have to lead by example. I just can't see someone like that in such a leadership position. It was a huge blunder on her part. If that is her opinion than good for her but she definitely has to work on expressing things more positively especially when in view of the public eye.
(And I'm not just saying that because it was a statement against gay people. I would feel the same way if it were a statement against anybody. Or any other type of negative statement.)
There are many other threads about this, all you gotta do is search for them.
But no, I honestly don't believe that is what caused her to lose. She was asked her opinion and she gave it, quite respectfully.Do you believe that Miss California lost the Miss USA pageant because of her stand on gay marriage?
No, I am gay but I don't think you could take her crown just because of what she thinks. I may not agree with what she said but no one has the right to get mad at someones opinion. I think Perez Hilton was really immature to leave a message like that. If he didn't agree with her that's Ok but he didn't have to call her a B****.
No I think she lost because that dirtbag Perez Hilton sabotaged her. She scored highest of all the contestants until he gave her a zero for her answer. If a person cannot keep their personal politics out of the mix they have no right to be a judge in ANY contest.
no, it is because one of her implants exploded under the bright, hot lights and hit a judge in the eye and the judge had to go to the hospital.
the video was edited out.
No, I think she lost because she showed that even though it was an old personal view she had a streak of ignorance which cluttered up the image of the MC within.
Probably. Contestants should be loving of ALL sorts of people and their choices, and clearly she wasn't.
No. She lost because she's an illiterate bimbo.
No, she lost it because the Hiton-prick was the judge.
I think so. That was such a negative thing to say! As Miss USA you're supposed to represent America. Personally I wouldn't want someone that negative representing this country. That's just not the ideal attitude of someone who would win the contest. It's a leadership role and in a leadership role many times you have to go against your beliefs in order to represent all people. You have to lead by example. I just can't see someone like that in such a leadership position. It was a huge blunder on her part. If that is her opinion than good for her but she definitely has to work on expressing things more positively especially when in view of the public eye.
(And I'm not just saying that because it was a statement against gay people. I would feel the same way if it were a statement against anybody. Or any other type of negative statement.)
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